| * spevack looks around | 21:59 | |
| rsc | spevack: Gerold is at another meeting right now, somewhere at the sports club, was thinking Fedora meeting would be an hour before. If we've much luck, he will return in 30 minutes. | 21:59 |
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| spevack | rsc: i thought it was more important to keep the meeting at 2200 local time, rather than to have it pegged to UTC and then be at 2300 | 22:00 |
| spevack | so... | 22:00 |
| spevack | who's here? | 22:00 |
| * pingou_ is | 22:00 | |
| yanstadel | me :D | 22:00 |
| rsc | Robert Scheck | 22:00 |
| bochecha | \o | 22:00 |
| MooDoo | o/ here | 22:00 |
| heffer | Felix Kaechele | 22:00 |
| cwickert | ChristophWickert | 22:00 |
| spevack | Max Spevack | 22:00 |
| cassmodiah | Simon Wesp | 22:00 |
| pingou_ | PierreYvesChibon | 22:00 |
| MooDoo | Paul Mellors | 22:00 |
| bochecha | Mathieu Bridon | 22:00 |
| sdziallas | Sebastian Dziallas | 22:00 |
| yanstadel | Yannik Stadelmaier | 22:01 |
| spevack | not a bad turnout | 22:01 |
| e1luca | Ewan Luca | 22:01 |
| * inode0 says hi, wow, and sits back to watch and learn | 22:01 | |
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| RadicalRo | Gabriel PREDA (Radical) - Romania | 22:01 |
| spevack | inode0: i don't know how much you'll learn :) | 22:01 |
| spevack | first of all, thanks to everyone for coming. | 22:01 |
| spevack | We missed last month (my fault), but I do think it is important to get us all in the same IRC room once a month just to tie up loose ends | 22:02 |
| spevack | we'll try to keep this pretty quick, while also covering the topics we need to discuss | 22:02 |
| spevack | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2009-04-01 | 22:02 |
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| spevack | So, first up on the agenda is "news from famsco" | 22:02 |
| spevack | this could take the whole time, so I'll just give the highlights :) | 22:03 |
| spevack | obviously a lot of activity recently on the fedora-ambassadors-list about reforming mentoring across ambassadors, and about doing a better job of building an ambassadors infrastructure of participation that can scale as we continue to grow | 22:03 |
| spevack | I personally think that Ambassdors has a unique set of challenges | 22:03 |
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| wonderer_ | hmm, ist heut nen Amb. meeting? oder istHenrik Heigl (sorry for late) | 22:04 |
| spevack | because (a) it is very regionalized and (b) it's likely to be the fastest growing part of Fedora, because that is where someone who is just a user, and not a programmer, is likely to end up. | 22:04 |
| spevack | and of course | 22:04 |
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| spevack | that is the source of the problem | 22:04 |
| spevack | we have a lot of people becoming ambassadors who don't necessarily understand what that means, or how to do it right. | 22:04 |
| spevack | blah blah | 22:04 |
| spevack | i won't repeat everything on the list :) | 22:04 |
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| spevack | I've been trying to address this myself w/ the ambassadors training classrooms in Fedora Classroom, but that's just a step | 22:05 |
| spevack | I think the big challenge for famsco, as I said in an email today, is to rebuild our mentoring and training system while also continuing to respect regional decision making. we need to build the base that everyone else in the world can then expand | 22:05 |
| spevack | i'll stop here, because most of this will probably be repeated tomorrow or somewhere else. | 22:06 |
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| spevack | any questions or comments about famsco stuff that we *can't* talk about in another place, like a famsco meeting? :) | 22:06 |
| spevack | or we can talk about this until :10, but then I want to move on :) | 22:06 |
| * spevack pauses and waits for a while | 22:06 | |
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| so_solid_moo | I thought something like perlmonks.org might be a good model for mentoring | 22:06 |
| cwickert | ! | 22:06 |
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| spevack | cwickert: please just go ahead | 22:07 |
| spevack | so_solid_moo: i'll check that out | 22:07 |
| cwickert | how important is the probpem for EMEA from your pov? | 22:07 |
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| cwickert | I mean, other reagions have even bigger problems with mentoring and I think kital is doing a great job | 22:08 |
| spevack | cwickert: personally, i don't think it's a very big problem in emea. I think we have a really good team, and I think we can obviously see new people in the EMEA events and doing "solid" ambassadors work that were not a year ago | 22:08 |
| spevack | cwickert: i agree with you | 22:08 |
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| spevack | i think we had a good team a year ago, and that we have a good team today that has some new faces | 22:08 |
| spevack | exactly what we want | 22:08 |
| spevack | any other thoughts or comments? | 22:08 |
| heffer | +1 | 22:08 |
| wonderer_ | +1 | 22:08 |
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| * spevack likes getting +1s :) | 22:08 | |
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| spevack | ok... | 22:09 |
| spevack | moving on then | 22:09 |
| wonderer_ | for info it is good, no action required, go on ;-) | 22:09 |
| che | spevack, did you write any training material up you used in the classes? | 22:09 |
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| spevack | kital: the next thing is "ambassadors membership verification". anything from you on this? | 22:09 |
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| spevack | che: just a list of topics which I then talked about. The next time I give the class, I'll read the logs from the time before, rebuild my agenda, and see if there's anything new. I'll also publish that agenda somewhere :) | 22:10 |
| spevack | che: but i didn't have anything other than a list of things to talk about and my thoughts :) | 22:10 |
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| spevack | ok... no kital, that's ok, we'll move on. | 22:11 |
| spevack | let's quickly talk about events. | 22:11 |
| heffer | ! | 22:11 |
| spevack | heffer: go ahead | 22:11 |
| heffer | I own FrOSCon now. Are there any steps already made by any of the Ambassadors? | 22:11 |
| spevack | heffer: when is froscon? | 22:12 |
| spevack | august | 22:12 |
| heffer | 22 and 23 aug. | 22:12 |
| spevack | heffer: at this point, if i were you, i'd be doing two things: | 22:12 |
| spevack | (1) watching for registration stuff that we have to do | 22:12 |
| cwickert | heffer: AFAIK not | 22:12 |
| spevack | (2) watching for the call for papers so that we can have hopefully a couple of talks | 22:12 |
| spevack | and when that call for papers comes, make sure we all know about i :) | 22:12 |
| cwickert | ! | 22:13 |
| heffer | okay. that's what i'll do then. | 22:13 |
| spevack | heffer: budget will be provided, and sorted out when we get closer to august, along with swag. | 22:13 |
| spevack | cwickert: go ahead | 22:13 |
| cwickert | I also have an event: openrheinruhr 2009, see http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenRheinRuhr2009 | 22:13 |
| spevack | people can jus talk -- no need for the "rules" unless it ends up being 10 at once :) | 22:13 |
| cwickert | call for papers just opened | 22:13 |
| spevack | wow, they are really early :) | 22:13 |
| cwickert | but still long way to go, it's in november, | 22:13 |
| heffer | okay i'll post a message to the mailing lists then | 22:14 |
| cwickert | so we donÄt need to talk about it that mich now, just wanted to let all of you know | 22:14 |
| spevack | cwickert: is it a new event, or just new for fedora? | 22:14 |
| spevack | cwickert: it seems like the sort of event where we could easily get 3 or 4 of the German folks to it. | 22:14 |
| * spevack is just guessing | 22:14 | |
| cwickert | it the successor of "come2linux" which did not really work out | 22:14 |
| cwickert | and was canceled last year | 22:14 |
| wonderer_ | ;) | 22:15 |
| cwickert | I guess, same size as FrOSCon | 22:15 |
| cwickert | anyway, still long way to go, I'll provide more details later | 22:15 |
| cwickert | lets move on | 22:15 |
| loupgaroublond | cwickert, i might be able to go | 22:16 |
| cwickert | loupgaroublond: great! | 22:16 |
| spevack | ok | 22:16 |
| spevack | moving on | 22:16 |
| spevack | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY10_Q1_.28March_2009_-_May_2009.29_3 | 22:16 |
| RadicalRo | 22 - 23 May 2009 - eLiberatica - I'll be there ! | 22:16 |
| spevack | RadicalRo: nice! are you signed up on the page? you should let nicu know that you will be there :) | 22:17 |
| RadicalRo | I already did | 22:17 |
| spevack | CLT and document freedom day are over. there were good reports from both events. CLT was a great, great event. | 22:17 |
| RadicalRo | I'm trying to set up a meeting | 22:17 |
| RadicalRo | to get MORE done for this event | 22:17 |
| spevack | RadicalRo: if there is anything I can do, please let me know. | 22:17 |
| RadicalRo | ok ! | 22:17 |
| spevack | RadicalRo: an IRC meeting would be good actually, so we can finalize all the budget stuff once more. | 22:17 |
| spevack | are any of the linux solutions guys here? | 22:17 |
| spevack | that event is ongoing right now | 22:17 |
| RadicalRo | i have free meeting room in my office, boss agreed with meeting :D | 22:18 |
| spevack | RadicalRo: oh, i thought you meant a meeting *before* the event, not *at* the event :P | 22:18 |
| spevack | well, we've seen some reports on Planet from linux solutions | 22:18 |
| RadicalRo | yes... before... | 22:18 |
| spevack | it certainly looks like they are having a good event. | 22:18 |
| bochecha | spevack, no, the people from SL aren't there | 22:18 |
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| spevack | I've done a little bit of work behind the scenes (though Thomas and Armel and the rest of fedora-fr have done all the hard work, i can't take any credit) but I'm trying to build some of their relationships with other Red Hat folks in france. we'll continue to see how that develops. | 22:19 |
| spevack | fab: are you around? | 22:20 |
| * spevack wonders if fab is fabian :) | 22:20 | |
| heffer | spevack, no he isn't | 22:20 |
| spevack | maybe i just pinged someone random | 22:20 |
| spevack | heh | 22:20 |
| spevack | fab: nevermind :) | 22:20 |
| heffer | fabian is fabian_a | 22:20 |
| spevack | well, fabian is at OpenExpo | 22:20 |
| spevack | I hooked him up with all the swag he needed when I saw him last month. | 22:20 |
| spevack | so hopefully he's having a good event. | 22:20 |
| spevack | The only remaining events in Q1 are the Partner Summit, which isn't really an "event" from the Fedora point of view. | 22:21 |
| spevack | kanarip is giving a talk there, about RH partners being able to get value from working with the Fedora community, and I'm helping him a bit with that. | 22:21 |
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| spevack | but again, he's doing all the hard work. | 22:21 |
| spevack | I know that Sandro will be there also. | 22:21 |
| spevack | FossComm is in Greece later this quarter. Dimitris is actually with me in Amsterdam right now, and we spoke to Pierros (the event owner, who many of you met at FOSDEM) yesterday, and he's in good shape. | 22:22 |
| spevack | The only event after that is eliberatica, which has a strong organizational team of its own, and who i need to give a little more budget help to. | 22:22 |
| spevack | We just made another 1000 Live CDs for Fedora 10 | 22:22 |
| spevack | let me quickly say a few words about budget, and then i'll stop and take questions | 22:23 |
| spevack | I think we are going to have some budget leftover at the end of this quarter, even after we pay all our various expenses. | 22:23 |
| spevack | if that is the case, then I am going to use the extra money to pre-pay the CD printer in Munich that Red Hat uses, so that when F11 lands right at the end of May or beginning of june, we can use the Q1 budget to make our first batch of F11 CDs | 22:24 |
| cwickert | +1 | 22:24 |
| spevack | especially because Q2 (June - August) will be the most expenseive of the year in EMEA, due to FUDCon and LinuxTag. | 22:24 |
| spevack | ok | 22:24 |
| RadicalRo | +1 | 22:24 |
| heffer | spevack, is that Agenda topic nr. 5? | 22:24 |
| spevack | heffer: i guess I just jump around :) | 22:24 |
| spevack | so last thing from me | 22:24 |
| spevack | and then questions | 22:24 |
| spevack | our europe FUDCon this year -- in Berlin, as you all know. | 22:25 |
| spevack | I really hope everyone can attend. | 22:25 |
| spevack | I want it to be the best FUDCon ever, and I believe it will be | 22:25 |
| loupgaroublond | spevack, you mean future fudcons are going to go down in quality? | 22:25 |
| spevack | I'll be in Berlin next week for a day with Gerold to meet with the organizers from Messe Berlin and get pictures of the spaces that we will have, and the planning is moving along. | 22:25 |
| spevack | loupgaroublond: ha ha :) | 22:25 |
| spevack | so, I guess that's my status report. | 22:26 |
| heffer | i planned on making a cute little flyer for the F11 release like we had at FOSDEM. if there is one thing i learned at FOSDEM it's that if you make your swag tiny people will find it cute and take it an keep it. | 22:26 |
| spevack | what's left to discuss? who has questions or comments or topics? | 22:26 |
| spevack | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009 | 22:26 |
| wonderer_ | spevack: think of the measurement of the Windows ;-) | 22:26 |
| spevack | heffer: yeah, big +1 | 22:26 |
| heffer | spevack, my budget for that would be around 140 euros for 5000pcs and around 240euros for 10.000 pcs. | 22:27 |
| heffer | i mean the budget i'd need | 22:27 |
| spevack | heffer: for a single release, i think 5000 is probably right, and the budget is of course no problem | 22:27 |
| wonderer_ | heffer: would the Layout be that way, that we can use the leftovers for other small events? | 22:28 |
| heffer | wonderer_, yes. it will be a general leaflet of F11. really colorful and with screenshots in the size of A7 (smaller than a postcard). and with 8 pages | 22:29 |
| wonderer_ | very well. | 22:29 |
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| spevack | anything else? | 22:32 |
| wonderer_ | -1 | 22:32 |
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| spevack | ok, well, i guess we'll adjourn the meeting | 22:33 |
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| * spevack hopes he didn't talk too much | 22:33 | |
| * loupgaroublond plugs for HAR 2009 | 22:34 | |
| * spevack was just trying to give an update on everything, but generally thinks that things are moving along well in EMEA | 22:34 | |
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| spevack | i'm really thankful for our community here | 22:34 |
| spevack | --- meeting adjourned --- | 22:34 |
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| * liknus is just in time :P | 22:35 | |
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